Talking about health well is less about what you know than about how you make people feel. And feeling is hard to teach, even to people who mean well.

Health lives in the middle of everything. Your aging parents make choices you would not have made. Your partner cannot raise the one topic you are tender about. Your child is struggling, and would rather not talk to you about it.

Health matters this much, and being right and being heard turn out to be two different skills. Most of us only ever practiced the first. So we correct. We rush to win.

In Debunk with Empathy, Dr. Wan Naszeerah shows how anyone can stay in these hard health conversations without losing the relationship. A first-generation Bruneian and public health practitioner, she introduces you to some of the most unforgettable characters, and the lessons they carry, from Southeast Asia's Nusantara sociocultural sphere, where old and new ways of healing have long lived side by side, in tension and in love.

Across eight lessons, each anchored in a Nusantara proverb, you'll learn to lower your hati, listen without “ears of a pot,” and respond with just enough rasa.

Bringing these conversations to your team, clinic or book club? Get in touch.

Talking about health well is less about what you know than about how you make people feel. And feeling is hard to teach, even to people who mean well.

Health lives in the middle of everything. Your aging parents make choices you would not have made. Your partner cannot raise the one topic you are tender about. Your child is struggling, and would rather not talk to you about it.

Health matters this much, and being right and being heard turn out to be two different skills. Most of us only ever practiced the first. So we correct. We rush to win.

In Debunk with Empathy, Dr. Wan Naszeerah shows how anyone can stay in these hard health conversations without losing the relationship. A first-generation Bruneian and public health practitioner, she introduces you to some of the most unforgettable characters, and the lessons they carry, from Southeast Asia's Nusantara sociocultural sphere, where old and new ways of healing have long lived side by side, in tension and in love.

Across eight lessons, each anchored in a Nusantara proverb, you'll learn to lower your hati, listen without “ears of a pot,” and respond with just enough rasa.

Bringing these conversations to your team, clinic or book club? Please email hello@naszeerah.com.

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